engine swap

[j0z0d34th]

ok i heard that the tsx and the s200 have the same engine tsx has 205 crank hp and the 2006 s2000 has like 240. one is this true and two if so why? i dont know much abt the s2000 and i kn ow its simple to look up but yeah i dont really have the time (im a d*ck like that)

[HondaSales]

forgive me if i'm wrong but i believe they are two different engines.

[-phase-]

s2000 is ap1
tsx is k24

s2000's engine is vertical mount

[narci]

Originally Posted by -phase-

s2000 is ap1
tsx is k24

s2000's engine is vertical mount

^ what he said..tranversely mounted engine i think it is.

[-phase-]

^^woo accidently deleted my post! lol

also isn't the s2k a 2.0l engine where as the tsx is 2.4?

[narci]

Originally Posted by -phase-

^^woo accidently deleted my post! lol

also isn't the s2k a 2.0l engine where as the tsx is 2.4?

Oops hahaha I put it back...me bad hahaha

[Phisigbrotha]

Originally Posted by -phase-

also isn't the s2k a 2.0l engine where as the tsx is 2.4?

yeah i think the original s2k engine was 2.0l (F20C) and the new ones are 2.2l (F22C1).

the tsx has a transversely mounted eninge while the s2000 is longitudinally mounted.

[narci]

Originally Posted by Phisigbrotha

yeah i think the original s2k engine was 2.0l (F20C) and the new ones are 2.2l (F22C1).

the tsx has a transversely mounted eninge while the s2000 is longitudinally mounted.

that's it..longitudily thingie mounted! hahaha

[mrgold35]

I don't think you would gain anything by switching out the motors. The S2000 engine 2.2L 162 torque peak is about 6800 rpms. You only have about 1200 rmps to enjoy it before hitting redline. Then the TSX is about 500lbs heavier, 60/40 weight distribution and a car build on luxury first and sport second.

I think you would spend $5000-$6500 just to get the same 0-60 times and a much slower car for everyday driving because of the extremely high torque numbers of the 2.2L. An S/C will get you in the S2000 0-60 range and it would be cheaper overall.

[Peregrine]

moved thread to the Engine / Transmission discussion forum

[aaron33]

OMG.....

TSX has the K24A2
S2000 has the F20C

Different engine series (although design-wise they are similar). You'd need custom mounts first. Next, the transmission. K24A2 is meant to be mount traversely while the F20C longitudinally. So the gearbox faces a perpendicular direction when you try to put an F20C into the TSX. Next, ECU. You could get a standalone ECU to manage the F20C (after spending $$$$$$$$ getting custom mounts and a weird custom gearbox setup) but all your instruments, climate control, cruise control, VSA and traction control won't work. You'd need to install an aftermarket instrument cluster.

Finally.... for daily driving, you'll be cursing that the F20C is slow in accelerating the 3200+lbs car in normal driving between 1000-4000rpm. In that RPM range, the F20C would still be sleeping while the K24A2 would be very close to its peak torque at 4500rpm.

Anyway, the K24A2 was made for heavy sedans like the TSX. In daily driving RPMs, it's producing almost max torque. The F20C on the other hand was made for peak power where torque is pushed up above 6000rpm.

[chuson]

Serious, if you don't have time to "search" then don't even think about it. They are simply 2 very different engine. Read what aaron33 stated, very detail.

[AcidLotus]

F20C was the older S2Ks
F22C1 is the newer S2Ks

[Benz]

I think everything has been cleared....

but if you still want more power, swap in a JDM K20 and put a HKS Turbo kit on it...simply solved. But remember, you are spending around 10g for this set-up, might as well trade that in for the S2k...

[pizzaman555]

Just add the super charger if you want more power.