2005 6MT Comptech Supercharger kit Officially out

[Tsx536]

Comptech just updated their website and the 2005 6MT Comptech Supercharger kit is officially out. I just noticed it this morning when I was looking for an extra belt .

Here's a link:
http://www.comptechusa.com/store/page5.html

[AcidLotus]

Utilizes the Eaton M62 blower, making approximately 5psi of boost which equates to 50 HP and 30 lb/ft. torque. ick! They should seriously consider throwing an M90 on there for cooler outlet temps and more CFM. I realize our static compression is pretty high to be boosting the K24, but with lower compression forged pistons and better tuning, we could get 100 - 150 HP out of these motors easily. If the Hondata reflash by itself provides roughly 29/26 on the 05 6MT, and comptech is using more conservative version of that reflash, you're really only getting roughly 25 HP out of the blower which is weaksauce.org. Even an otherwise stock ITR B18C5 with the JRSC which has the M62 and 5.5 PSI nets 53 HP/40 Tq with minimal tuning and without any sort of reflash or ECU hack. The JRSC kits use horribly unreliable piggyback FMUs, so something like the hondata S200B with some 440cc injectors properly tuned could pump out another 20/10 on that combo. And, if I recall correctly, the static compression ratios are similar.

[narci]

yeah.. i agree. your paying $5000 for a SC that puts out 25 ho while the chip puts out the rest. very weak indeed.

[spyguy]

they need to find a way around the DBW throttle and throw a turbo in our cars!!!!

[mrgold35]

The TSX is still a luxury car 1st and a 4-dr sports sedan 2nd. The S/C adds 50hp/30lb-tq to the wheels. Add the intake/exhaust mods and might see another 5-12lb-tq at the wheels. With the lower weight and added power, a stock TL would have a very hard time beating an S/C TSX. The TSX might even come out ahead in 0-60 times and leave the TL on a road course.

There is always something better around the corner, bigger S/C, turbo, V6, BMW twin turbo, rocket packs, warp drive, inter-dimensional travel by folding space, etc.. Comptech is a sure thing I’m sticking with when the time comes to up the HP/TQ numbers.

[Tsx536]

Originally Posted by exciv2000

Utilizes the Eaton M62 blower, making approximately 5psi of boost which equates to 50 HP and 30 lb/ft. torque. ick! They should seriously consider throwing an M90 on there for cooler outlet temps and more CFM. I realize our static compression is pretty high to be boosting the K24, but with lower compression forged pistons and better tuning, we could get 100 - 150 HP out of these motors easily. If the Hondata reflash by itself provides roughly 29/26 on the 05 6MT, and comptech is using more conservative version of that reflash, you're really only getting roughly 25 HP out of the blower which is weaksauce.org. Even an otherwise stock ITR B18C5 with the JRSC which has the M62 and 5.5 PSI nets 53 HP/40 Tq with minimal tuning and without any sort of reflash or ECU hack. The JRSC kits use horribly unreliable piggyback FMUs, so something like the hondata S200B with some 440cc injectors properly tuned could pump out another 20/10 on that combo. And, if I recall correctly, the static compression ratios are similar.

We are talking about a basic, direct bolt on, low psi, street legal kit here. Comptech makes there basic kits conservative so that they will still pass SMOG in Cali. Since I live here, this was very important to me.

The K24 actually has a ton of potential. We could easily hit higher numbers with more boost and other engine mods. The problem is that we have no engine management. Until then, if you want more power, this is your only route to safely do it.

Keep in mind you hit Peak torque at 3K when Vtec engages with this kit and stay at close to peak torque all the way to redline. You need to look at dynos and not just try to look at the numbers by themselves. The Hondata reflash only gives that type of increases in a certain RPM range, you don't get those type of increases throughout the entire RPM range like you do with an SC.

Coming from a person who had the Hondata reflash before the Comptech Supercharger, let me just say that the Hondata reflash was very nice, but the Comptech SC is in a whole different league. It just transforms the TSX into a different car.

Here a sample dyno. If you guys had a SC kit on your TSX, I doubt you would be knocking it. The cost does suck, but it makes a huge difference on the street.

[hoOnzABPtsX]

Only part I dont like about the SC is that even after spending 5g's on the engine it doesnt put out better numbers than stock g's or z's.. doesnt really sound temping

[AcidLotus]

Uhm, I did look at the dyno charts for all of the different options... stock, hondata, SC, JRSC, etc. I'm the SC moderator at Superhonda so I have had years of deducing info from dyno plots and comparing various SC/engine management packages. From that I can tell you that the Comptech is overpriced for the underpowered performance that it gives you. While 1/2 of that underperformance is most likely from the lack of engine management, a B18C5 does more with absolutely 0 engine management other than a stock ECU at a much better price. Added to which, all JRSC's are street and CARB legal too. While Jackson Racing doesn't have an SC for the K24, it may only be time before they develop one that leaves comptech in the dust, which the comparisons I've shown already have. Comptech is a great company that spends plenty on R&D to get it right, so for that I commend them. I fault them for their lackluster performance and high prices. And in this case, you don't get what you pay for.

[Tsx536]

Hey, I understand where you're coming from. I just don't think it's fair to compare a SC kit for a K series engine to an SC kit for a B series engine. The B series has been around a lot longer so there has been more time for many companies to do R&D on it. Hopefully as time goes by the same type of things will happen for the K series engines. It's just too early to tell for it, and the drive by wire technology has really messed this up from a tuner's perspective.

As of right now though, this is the only kit that will give the TSX 50 more whp. Don't get me more wrong, I wish it could make more power too, but we just don't have engine management, so we can't run higher boost pulleys safely. If we could run with a high boost pulley and high flow injectors, and have the proper engine management to control it, I'm sure we could get 100 whp.

And, on the K series RSX engines, the JRSC and Comptech SC base kits have shown to make the same amount of power. So for the K Series anyway, JR doesn't have the advantage right now, it's pretty much neck and neck. I hope JRSC comes out with a TSX kit too, they have an aftercooler for the RSX SC kit being released, and Comptech doesn't. And hopefully the prices of these kits will drop soon too. Since they are brand new, they are priced higher since the companies have to try to get back some of their R&D costs. As time goes by, and the market grows, the prices should drop though. As with most products that you are an early adopter of, unfortunately you usually have to pay a premium for it.

[Tsx536]

Originally Posted by hoOnzABPtsX

Only part I dont like about the SC is that even after spending 5g's on the engine it doesnt put out better numbers than stock g's or z's.. doesnt really sound temping

I've heard of a forum member getting the kit for as cheap as $3650. I guessing you could hang with a stock G or Z a lot better than you would be able to now. I don't spend much time trying to street race myself though. For me the SC is more about the big smile on on my face everytime that I hit boost!

[Drunkenbuda]

i wish i was running boost, i spent that money on the Mugen NRs.