Recommendations for power upgrades

deuce06tsx · 02-22-2008, 01:37 PM

I see a lot of people talk about Hondata. A lot of good things are said about the results of doing the reflash. Are there any "buts" related to doing the reflash? Any bad things about it? I'm kind of hesitant about sending my factory parts to some 'place' to have them reprogram it (or whatever they do) but am interested in enhancing the performance of my car.

Thanks!
Bob

justsx04 · 02-22-2008, 01:42 PM

The first thing I would recommend is Injen CAI. You will feel some power gains and your car will sound sick!!!

xjohnkdoex · 02-22-2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by deuce06tsx

I see a lot of people talk about Hondata. A lot of good things are said about the results of doing the reflash. Are there any "buts" related to doing the reflash? Any bad things about it? I'm kind of hesitant about sending my factory parts to some 'place' to have them reprogram it (or whatever they do) but am interested in enhancing the performance of my car.

Thanks!
Bob

isn't that the nature of aftermarket parts? by swapping them with OEM parts, you're taking upon the risk that it might do something 'bad' to your car.

you're assuming the risk comes with enhancing the performance of your car when modding it. that said, every review i've read for the reflash says it's a great mod. and it's not like hondata is made up of punk tuners fiddling around with honda ecu's. they're familiar with honda ecus and their codes. they test their products and know the limits.

BigBen · 02-22-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by deuce06tsx

I see a lot of people talk about Hondata. A lot of good things are said about the results of doing the reflash. Are there any "buts" related to doing the reflash? Any bad things about it? I'm kind of hesitant about sending my factory parts to some 'place' to have them reprogram it (or whatever they do) but am interested in enhancing the performance of my car.

Thanks!
Bob

There is nothing bad about hondata. Depending on the year tsx you have will depend on if you can even get hondata. I would say hondata is def. the best bang for you buck. You will fill more gains from that than any bolt on.

Ben

IntegraGSR23 · 02-22-2008, 02:30 PM

HyTech

kyotousa · 02-22-2008, 03:25 PM

but...if the dealer finds out about Hondata you loose warranty
that's about it...

BigBen · 02-22-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kyotousa

but...if the dealer finds out about Hondata you loose warranty
that's about it...

That goes for any mod. They can't void your warranty unless they can prove that hondata or any other mod is the cause of the problem.

kyotousa · 02-22-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBen

That goes for any mod. They can't void your warranty unless they can prove that hondata or any other mod is the cause of the problem.

well since you modded the ecu...they could claim alot of things.
Electrical problems that's control by ECU, engine, watever.

He was asking the downside to Hondata.....warranty issue certainly is one of them, probably the only one tho.

BigBen · 02-22-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kyotousa

well since you modded the ecu...they could claim alot of things.
Electrical problems that's control by ECU, engine, watever.

He was asking the downside to Hondata.....warranty issue certainly is one of them, probably the only one tho.

Agree but just wanted to throw that out there.

xjohnkdoex · 02-22-2008, 04:16 PM

has to be proven that the mod led to the failure. whatever that riot act is.

but yeah, that applies to any mod.

DAYTA · 02-22-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by xjohnkdoex

has to be proven that the mod led to the failure. whatever that riot act is.

but yeah, that applies to any mod.

You're referring to the Magnusson-Moss Act.

xjohnkdoex · 02-22-2008, 04:48 PM

exactly. thanks.

chuson · 02-22-2008, 05:14 PM

The Hondata reflash is the LEAST noticable mod compare to any other mod for TSX. It's not visual, and unless your dealer redline your car and pass the original redline 7300rrm (Hondata set it @ 7600rpm); or else no one will notice.

narci · 02-22-2008, 07:48 PM

But the hondata mod also lower the v-tec engagement point right?

Nino · 02-22-2008, 08:29 PM

Yes, it does lower vtec point.

I do not think that your regular dealer will pick up on this... Most of the times they take warranty money or your money, and simply wash your car in return, and even if they do something specific last thing one would do is take TSX to rip it around...

Anyway, for me personally there are 2 possible issues with Hondata.

1 wait time. It is not uncommon for busy people to make you wait a couple or few weeks, maybe Hondata is very efficient, but something I'd want to know for sure before sending my ECU/key/immobilizer and paying for the car to sit in the driveway...

2 rev limit

I will not go into details, but lets just say that TSX engine piston speed, is not it's best friend, 7600rpm with K24 is considerable, and will wear your engine down sooner. Especially if you do it every day 20 times.

With these two things out of the way and crossed fingers that knock control works well should you fill up with some shitty gas you are good to go.

For me personnaly, I would get Hondata today if they would loan me stock ecu, so I can drive around while they do their thing. I can live with point 2.