Why does the tsx need a short shifter?

HKSSupra91 · 08-27-2008, 11:59 AM

I just wanted to know why the tsx needs a short shifter. I mean the shifts could be shorter, but it's the super heavy flywheel that is the limiting factor.

Even if you shift twice as fast, you still have to wait for the (shifting at redline) rpms to drop to completely let off the clutch. Unless you're in a higher gear, which in case the short shifter might be better. My last three cars, i can let off the clutch in first to second right away, no delay at redline. But since the tsx flywheel is sooo heavy, it requires a lil more patience with the clutch.

Anyone want to give me their opinion on their short shifter?

kennungesser · 08-27-2008, 12:38 PM

I love mine. You will notice a huge diff.

HKSSupra91 · 08-27-2008, 12:46 PM

which short shifter do you have? I mean I can understand the shifter might feel nicer, and that could be the reason itself to purchase one. But I think the advantages of a short shifter is the quicker shifting, but the flywheel still slows the whole shifting process. Your hands already outshifted the flywheel even with the factory shifter.

narci · 08-27-2008, 03:07 PM

I'm sure just getting short shifter with no other mods won't seem like much of a change. Couple the shortshifter with a hondata reflash (which lowers vtec engage,kent and broadens the vtec band) might make it more worthwhile of a mod. Maybe even just a synthetic tranny oil change might make the shortshifter a good mod. (use to drive stick and it was night and day difference between syn tranny fluid and conventional, a shortshifter would have been nice to help with the silky shifting syn tranny fluid makes).

I'm no expert at this though so don't take my word for it.

bluexcrush · 08-27-2008, 03:51 PM

i thought we should stick to Honda fluid?

HKSSupra91 · 08-27-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by narci

I'm sure just getting short shifter with no other mods won't seem like much of a change. Couple the shortshifter with a hondata reflash (which lowers vtec engage,kent and broadens the vtec band) might make it more worthwhile of a mod. Maybe even just a synthetic tranny oil change might make the shortshifter a good mod. (use to drive stick and it was night and day difference between syn tranny fluid and conventional, a shortshifter would have been nice to help with the silky shifting syn tranny fluid makes).

I'm no expert at this though so don't take my word for it.

The reflash still doesnt justify the short shifter. All I am saying is our hands outshift our heavy flywheels especially in first to second gear redline shift. We still have to wait for the rpms to drop to let go of the clutch. I'm thinking a light weight flywheel would justify the short shifter.

Emajor243 · 08-27-2008, 04:02 PM

def a lighter fly wheel after market ones weight about 8-9 lbs, while stock ones weight 14-16 lbs, that with a short shifter and you will def feel the diff...lighter fly wheel def next summer

HKSSupra91 · 08-27-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Emajor243

def a lighter fly wheel after market ones weight about 8-9 lbs, while stock ones weight 14-16 lbs, that with a short shifter and you will def feel the diff...lighter fly wheel def next summer

Yea, I think I definitely want to change to ligher flywheel (prolly when my clutch dies). I am not used to a heavy flywheel. Anybody with a light weight flywheel want to chime in? Wanted to know if you could quickly pop the clutch from a first to second redline shift. That way the short shifter might come in handy.

2K6TSX · 08-28-2008, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bluexcrush

i thought we should stick to Honda fluid?

That's what I was told as well..in my old 98 Accord V6 some mechanic put some other stuff in my car and I barely made it home!

ians · 08-28-2008, 01:11 AM

I put on the short shifter just because it make the shifting firmer and shorter which meant shifting feel is better. Just that is worth to put it on.

kuma912 · 08-28-2008, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bluexcrush

i thought we should stick to Honda fluid?

I use GM synchromesh.

matiasneto · 08-28-2008, 02:17 AM

if only for the feel the short shifter is still worth it. the drive by wire does more damage power delivery betwean gears, more so then the flywheel

evertp1 · 08-28-2008, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HKSSupra91

The reflash still doesnt justify the short shifter. All I am saying is our hands outshift our heavy flywheels especially in first to second gear redline shift. We still have to wait for the rpms to drop to let go of the clutch. I'm thinking a light weight flywheel would justify the short shifter.

i hear what your saying bro... ive taken my car to the track and shifting from first to second, i can do it at redline cause the ****in gears grind, or it just wont go into second and that suck when you are racing againts civics and integras. but nevertheless, first, second shift is the worst in our cars. even with the drive by wire system, even if u can get it into second really fast, you have to wait for it to catch up to itself, even with traction control off!