Hondata IMG

ckelleyfla · 06-29-2009, 02:40 AM

not to take up thread space but i just installed my hondata img along w/ the coolant bypass & p2r tb gasket i had done already and man its ALOT cooler i dont notice any hp increase and shouldnt, but what i do notice is that i can now grab my intake manifold after driving my car stop n go for an hour i know this is whats supposed to happen, cooler air and motor = good but damn didnt expect to be able to grab it, im pleased good 50 dollar cheap mod i highly recommend now i can move on to hondata reflash and a header

visuelz · 06-29-2009, 03:20 AM

I've been reading up a lot on this and I'm not buying it. The gasket was replaced from metal to this new material. That means it doesn't transfer heat anymore to the manifold. That also means the engine doesn't cool as fast anymore. Any ideas?

Jeremiah · 06-29-2009, 11:12 AM

How would mating the IM to the block with metal help it cool down any faster? Cold is a lack of energy.... if the IM is already cool, why would it need to cool more?

Or are you referencing the motor cooling down sooner? I'm not really sure I understand the angle of how this is bad. Honda does what they do because it is cost effective, and most people don't care about this type of thing anyway.

I have not known a phenolic spacer to be a negative addition for power production or metal metal fatigue in any light. The only possible down side, is slightly lowered fuel economy, as the incoming air is slightly cooler, requiring more fuel to be sprayed.

Dark · 06-29-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by visuelz

I've been reading up a lot on this and I'm not buying it. The gasket was replaced from metal to this new material. That means it doesn't transfer heat anymore to the manifold. That also means the engine doesn't cool as fast anymore. Any ideas?

I understand what your theory is; the IM is acting like a big passive radiator for the motor.

Well, if our engines were air cooled then I can surely understand how doing this may not be as beneficial but since we have an internally liquid cooled engine the issue should be non existent. The cooling system will keep the engine at it's operating temperature and with the IM gasket keeping the IM cooler that makes less trapped heat to dissipate.

Someone would more likely notice gains on a boosted application where the intake temperatures are much higher but there is absolutely no harm in doing it otherwise.

scratchieepants · 06-29-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ckelleyfla

not to take up thread space but i just installed my hondata img along w/ the coolant bypass & p2r tb gasket i had done already and man its ALOT cooler i dont notice any hp increase and shouldnt, but what i do notice is that i can now grab my intake manifold after driving my car stop n go for an hour i know this is whats supposed to happen, cooler air and motor = good but damn didnt expect to be able to grab it, im pleased good 50 dollar cheap mod i highly recommend now i can move on to hondata reflash and a header

How long did it take for you to install the Hondata IMG?

Bender Unit · 06-29-2009, 04:30 PM

Do you need to drain the coolant before install ?

IntegraGSR23 · 06-29-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bender Unit

Do you need to drain the coolant before install ?

Some needs to be drained

IntegraGSR23 · 06-29-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by visuelz

I've been reading up a lot on this and I'm not buying it. The gasket was replaced from metal to this new material. That means it doesn't transfer heat anymore to the manifold. That also means the engine doesn't cool as fast anymore. Any ideas?

This has nothing to do with engine cooling...

The gasket reduces the IM temps..

Dark · 06-29-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by IntegraGSR23

This has nothing to do with engine cooling...

The gasket reduces the IM temps..

I'm sure he understands that, he was bringing up a completely different topic in relation to the IM gasket and engine heat.

visuelz · 06-29-2009, 07:27 PM

Yeah, Dark understood my question and answered it very well. Thanks!

ckelleyfla · 06-29-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bender Unit

Do you need to drain the coolant before install ?

only a bit the car was cooling for a while

ckelleyfla · 06-29-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by scratchieepants

How long did it take for you to install the Hondata IMG?

about an hour 20 min of it was trying to get that pain in the ass bracket at the bottom of the im off

IntegraGSR23 · 06-29-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ckelleyfla

about an hour 20 min of it was trying to get that pain in the ass bracket at the bottom of the im off

Yeah that bracket bolt is a pain!!!

TSX_WS · 06-29-2009, 09:33 PM

Thermostat, radiators and their fans always did the job of cooling and always will. IM is given all that heat together with TB and in addition to intake resonator to keep the engine sound exactly the same at any temperature despite the power loss. TB is also heated for the sake of TB valve not jamming due to shrinking/freezing.

I believe that the cooler it gets, the bigger is ur gain with IMG and TB bypass. Actually, I know it.

lcrazyaznl · 06-30-2009, 12:56 AM

Man I still haven't installed my hondata im... probably about time to do so.