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Old 10-30-2009, 11:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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HELP!! newb with slammed car :)

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-If it is a very steep driveway, but it has a wide entrance, you can make it work.
Go sideways up... like 25-30 degrees, go straight until ALL 4 wheels make it up, and then turn.
At first I thought everybody did this for (what i call) steep, but it wasn't until Grenas17 drove my car and letting me know that it doesnt work on my car if you turn when only 3 wheels make it up.
You can test it by turning the wheel slowly after the 3rd wheel gets onto the curb, if it scrapes, straighten it back out and keep going straight until the 4th wheel is up.
do you mean 'scrape' as in the tires are rubbing the fenders? or the bumper scraping the cement.

right now i'm dropped no gap with slight tucking of tires... when i make full rotation turns (like U-turns) i hear the tires rubbing against the fender (but slightly)...is that normal or do i have to raise it up a bit. (I already took the clips out and tucked the plastic under the metal and pushed it up as far as it would go.) you think i should pull out the fender a lil bit to make it wider?

also when im going up drive ways...if only two of my tires are on the incline and i turn the wheel all the way, the tire gets stuck/harsh rubbing on the fender and literally pushes the fender out if i try to go any more...is this cuz i dont have at least 3 tires on the incline?

but if i turn the wheel any less than 90% of a full rotation, i dont get any rubbing...

do i need to pull the fenders wider out, stiffen my shocks (they're on 12 in the front...so 3 clicks left from stiffest?) or what _ _" should i just raise all four a little bit more?

these are about the front two tires...i THINK the back two dont rub at all or what not...

oh and one last thing...do you guys think if i had a lower profile tire it would solve the problem?

my rims are tl-s 17x8 +45 tires are the stock ones that come with the tl-s(cant exactly remember specs right now)


*i posted the same thing on mclovin's thread but kinda felt messed up for asking all this nonsense on another persons thread....
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Old 10-31-2009, 07:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 10-31-2009, 10:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You can raise it up, run more negative camber up front, pull the fender liner out. Personally raise it or run more negative camber.
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You could also run a less meaty tire. The 17x8 TL-S wheels come with 235/45/17, I believe. Stepping down to 225 could help you a bit, although I don't know how badly that would throw off your spedo/odo readings.

I agree with CarbonDetails. "Too low to function" is no way to be.
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Stiffen it up. Or raise it.
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As said above. Raise the car, run less meaty tires and/or more negative camber. Scraping is typically in relation to a car scraping the bumper or lip on the ground. Rubbing is where the wheel rubs against the fender liner or whatever. Scraping you can get on inclines or bumps. Rubbing you can also get on inclines and bumps or when you have too much weight in your lowered car. The front will rub more because there is less clearance than the back, heavier so when you hit bumps more weight pushing the front down, and the wheels are turning and not staying straight like the rear.

Really your choice on what you wanna do though. If you want to keep the height the run some camber and stiffen it up. If you don't mind raising it but keeping the stiffness and camber overall the same the raise it up. Either way if you want more camber and/or raise it then you need a new alignment to get everything set. You would also want to look into camber kits to adjust more on the negative side need be. The main thing to keep in line is your toe to avoid tire wear leading you to change the tires more often which is very costly.
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You could also run a less meaty tire. The 17x8 TL-S wheels come with 235/45/17, I believe. Stepping down to 225 could help you a bit, although I don't know how badly that would throw off your spedo/odo readings.

I agree with CarbonDetails. "Too low to function" is no way to be.
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as said above. Raise the car, run less meaty tires and/or more negative camber. Scraping is typically in relation to a car scraping the bumper or lip on the ground. Rubbing is where the wheel rubs against the fender liner or whatever. Scraping you can get on inclines or bumps. Rubbing you can also get on inclines and bumps or when you have too much weight in your lowered car. The front will rub more because there is less clearance than the back, heavier so when you hit bumps more weight pushing the front down, and the wheels are turning and not staying straight like the rear.

Really your choice on what you wanna do though. If you want to keep the height the run some camber and stiffen it up. If you don't mind raising it but keeping the stiffness and camber overall the same the raise it up. Either way if you want more camber and/or raise it then you need a new alignment to get everything set. You would also want to look into camber kits to adjust more on the negative side need be. The main thing to keep in line is your toe to avoid tire wear leading you to change the tires more often which is very costly.

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You could also roll your fenders for a few more MM of clearance. Personally, I'm always fighting to go lower so tires/negative camber is what I would do. Stepping down to a 225 like some one else said would be your best bet. Sometimes a specific brand/type of tire has a wider section width than another brand/type. Like comparing a yoko S-drive to a Exlcaim UHP. The General tire over the dunlop gives you 3/8ths of an inch. The narrowest 225/40 I've personally found is the Fuzion ZRi made by Bridgestone.
Also, Im not sure if its popular in the acura scene, but you could step all the way down to a 215/40 with a mild stretch and probably be able to go significantly lower. OD is withing 3% speedo will be in spec.

Heres a 215/35/18 on a 18x8.5. You'd want a taller sidewall, but the stretch will basically be the same.

Don't mind my wheel gap. The car was on Jackstands. On the ground 3 1/4" subframe to ground.


If its just tire/fender rub its easy to fix, its when you start to drag the oilpan or subframe when you need to raise it a bit. In thethe mean time, crank your coils up a turn and add another degree of - camber as others have said, and adjust driving technique.
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